{"id":1895,"date":"2013-12-26T15:21:43","date_gmt":"2013-12-26T13:21:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/w3.sonofcarey.com\/?p=1895"},"modified":"2013-12-26T15:21:43","modified_gmt":"2013-12-26T13:21:43","slug":"scruton-vs-carson-on-culture","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.sonofcarey.com\/?p=1895","title":{"rendered":"Scruton vs. Carson on Culture"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Roger Scruton, <em>Culture Counts\u00a0<\/em>(2007) 1-2 and 106:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>By &#8220;culture&#8221; I mean what has been called &#8220;high culture&#8221;&#8211;the accumulation of art, literature, and humane reflection that has stood the &#8220;test of time&#8221; and established a continuing tradition of reference and allusion among educated people.<\/p>\n<p>[T]he attempt to build a realm of intrinsic value&#8211;and that is what a culture really is.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>D. A. Carson, <em>Christ and Culture Revisited <\/em>(2008) 1:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Not very long, &#8220;culture&#8221; commonly referred to what is now meant by &#8220;high culture.&#8221; &#8230; Today, &#8220;culture&#8221; has become a fairly plastic concept that means something like &#8220;the set of values broadly shared by some subset of the human population.&#8221; That&#8217;s not bad, but doubtless the definition could be improved by a bit of tightening.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>To which Scruton replies, 2:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The culture of a civilization is the art and literature through which it rises to consciousness of itself and defines its vision of the world. All civilizations have a culture, but not all cultures achieve equal heights.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Carson again in a footnote, 3:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Here I am parting from many older treatments [i.e. T. S. Eliot], which, despite their heuristic value, subtly assume some notion or other of &#8220;high&#8221; culture.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>But Scruton defends Eliot, 13-14:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>A culture consists of all those activities and artifacts which are organized by the &#8220;common pursuit of true judgment,&#8221; as T. S. Eliot once put it. And true judgment involves the search for meaning through the reflective encounter with things made, composed, and written, with such an end in view.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>As <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sonofcarey.com\/2013\/08\/what-is-culture\/\" target=\"_blank\">I referenced previously<\/a> and as these two men demonstrate, there are two sides in the church&#8217;s culture wars. Scruton&#8217;s side allows him room to oppose pop music (for one among several examples see pages 60-65 in <em>Culture Counts<\/em>), but Carson&#8217;s leaves music alone. The first camp makes judgments about architecture, art, and literature while the second seems quick to find reflections of common grace in inferior works.<\/p>\n<p>This debate enters the church every Sunday in the form of musical styles, architecture, and personal appearance. It touches economic and <a href=\"http:\/\/books.google.co.za\/books\/about\/A_Political_Philosophy.html?id=JTK_iPOozq0C&amp;redir_esc=y\" target=\"_blank\">political philosophy<\/a> (though the two sides probably have most everything in common here).<\/p>\n<p>But what we shouldn&#8217;t deny is that the tension exists. Rather, the times call for a sober investigation of first principles surrounding&#8211;it would appear&#8211;even the very definition of culture and the fabled existence of that dreadful beast, high culture.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Roger Scruton, Culture Counts\u00a0(2007) 1-2 and 106: By &#8220;culture&#8221; I mean what has been called &#8220;high culture&#8221;&#8211;the accumulation of art, literature, and humane reflection that has stood the &#8220;test of time&#8221; and established a continuing tradition of reference and allusion &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sonofcarey.com\/?p=1895\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[9,10,13],"tags":[37,187,38,186,362,185],"class_list":["post-1895","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-multiculturalism","category-orthopathy","category-quotes","tag-culture","tag-culture-wars","tag-d-a-carson","tag-high-culture","tag-quotes","tag-scruton"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p3QrZa-uz","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.sonofcarey.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1895","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.sonofcarey.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.sonofcarey.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.sonofcarey.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.sonofcarey.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1895"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.sonofcarey.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1895\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1896,"href":"https:\/\/www.sonofcarey.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1895\/revisions\/1896"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.sonofcarey.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1895"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.sonofcarey.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1895"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.sonofcarey.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1895"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}